On Tue, 28 May 2002, Stefan Smietanowski wrote:
> >>>>I'm waiting for you guys to release RH7.3 install iso .. :)
> >>>>Any release date known yet?
> >>>>(how long do i have to wait with formatting my laptop drive? ;)
> >>>This is a job of the RedHat distributor.
> >>Why do I get the feeling that you haven't really been using xfs / on the
> >>xfs list for very long?
> >>What he's referring to and what there is at least one more thread about
> >>is that SGI has historically made patched RedHat installers, like for
> >>example release 1.0.2 for RedHat 7.2. That's an example.
> > and they probably wish they never had, since its only resulted in
> > people whining every 15 seconds on this list that they haven't
> > rewritten redhats installer for today's release X.whatever.
> They did it for one reason: exposure. Wide testing. They sent out a
> patched RedHat installer iso that enabled people to install it and test
> it. Noone is screaming that SGI HAS to supply an installer for RH7.3.
> They just want itm and if they don't ask, they won't know. The issue is
> that it's already been discussed and people should read that it HAS been
> discussed and since you cut away what I wrote below that I'll have to
> rewrite it:
Unfortunately, this is incorrect. SGI announces the release of the
updated installer once it's completed. They also make it available for
download, via their web site. When the installer is ready, anyone who is
interested in using it has at least 2 methods of finding out about
it...the linux-xfs list and the web site. And let us not forget about the
list archives, which are searchable.
> > Stefan is correct though, its not SGI's responsibility to rewrite
> > everyones installer, thats the vendor's responsibility, or its your
> > own responsibility. nobody should be expecting SGI to do it like they
> > are obligated, they aren't. remember this is a port of XFS to the
> > Linux kernel, NOT a port of XFS to redhat.
> Yes and no, XFS is a kernel issue, true (and some userspace fluff). But
> also, SGI have supplied installer isos for three consecutive RedHat
> distros. Don't be surprised people are SO happy with it that they
> request a new one ported to the latest RedHat.
But those same people, who know that the installer has been put together
for the last 3 releases, can take it on pretty good faith that an
installer for this version will be forthcoming.
Pestering the developers about it won't make it come any faster.
> > please either patch it yourself, bug redhat about it, or switch to a
> > distro that has a XFS capable installer available and/or a dist which
> > is actually upgradable without the filesystem mattering.
This, of course, is patently unfair, as RedHat isn't really involved in
> > I would much prefer the SGI folks spend thier time further improving
> > XFS and hopefully getting it merged into the mainline linux source
> > then spending all thier time answering this stupid question every
> > 15 seconds, or patching redhat's installer every other month.
> I bet that's what's gonna happen. Also notice they're not answering this
> stupid question every 15 seconds :)
> Neither is RedHat coming out with a new installer every month :)
> Notice the difference between request and demand please.
Request is a single request. Demand is a clamoring for the item. See
the difference between what you think is a request and what appears to be
the reality of a demand situation.
What it comes down to is that the people requesting the item are well
aware that the OSS folks do put together an installer ISO, and that one
will come out when one is available. The fact that they are aware that
the ISO is coming should indicate to them that patience is in order, here,
on their part.