Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6UC3rRw006275 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:03:53 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.3/Submit) id g6UC3rgn006274 for netdev-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:03:53 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-netdev@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from cyberus.ca (mail.cyberus.ca [216.191.240.111]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g6UC3kRw006265 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 05:03:47 -0700 Received: from shell.cyberus.ca (shell [216.191.240.114]) by cyberus.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3/Cyberus Online Inc.) with ESMTP id IAA10441; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hadi@localhost) by shell.cyberus.ca (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6UBwhg16912; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:58:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.cyberus.ca: hadi owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:58:42 -0400 (EDT) From: jamal To: Patrick Schaaf cc: Andi Kleen , Rusty Russell , , , Subject: Re: TODO list before feature freeze In-Reply-To: <20020729182659.D570@oknodo.bof.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-netdev@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Patrick Schaaf wrote: > Jamal, > > > They also have a lot of problems with their per-packet computations. > > Robert and I spent a short time looking at "this thing that is making > > us look bad" (perfomance wise) and talked to Harald. > > Do you have written up somewhere what kind of performance problems you were > seeing, under which conditions (hash bucket count, number of tracked > connections, packet load) > Just standard setup in forwarding. Infact you only need one or two flows active to verify this -- which leads me to believe hashing may play a smaller role in the whole problem. What i have seen and reported by many people (someone seems to have gone one step further and documented numbers, but cant find his email right now). Take Linux as a router, it routes at x% of wire rate. Load conntracking and watch it go down another 25% at least. > > Something that looked like needs improvement at first glance was the aging > > and hashing schemes. > > Regarding the hashing schemes, please see discussions on netfilter-devel > over the last weeks: > I think hashing is one of the problems. What performance improvemet are you seeing? (couldnt tell from looking at your data) cheers, jamal