Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) id f94FHHD13821 for linux-xfs-outgoing; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:17:17 -0700 Received: from zok.sgi.com (zok.sgi.com [204.94.215.101]) by oss.sgi.com (8.11.2/8.11.3) with SMTP id f94FHDD13802 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:17:13 -0700 Received: from zeus-fddi.americas.sgi.com (zeus-fddi.americas.sgi.com [128.162.8.103]) by zok.sgi.com (8.11.4/8.11.4/linux-outbound_gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id f94FH8K29681 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:17:08 -0700 Received: from daisy-e185.americas.sgi.com (daisy.americas.sgi.com [128.162.185.214]) by zeus-fddi.americas.sgi.com (8.9.3/americas-smart-nospam1.1) with ESMTP id KAA3145349; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:15:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from jen.americas.sgi.com (jen.americas.sgi.com [128.162.187.49]) by daisy-e185.americas.sgi.com (SGI-8.9.3/SGI-server-1.7) with ESMTP id KAA96124; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:15:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from jen.americas.sgi.com by jen.americas.sgi.com (8.11.6/SGI-client-1.7) via ESMTP id f94FFW607488; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:15:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200110041515.f94FFW607488@jen.americas.sgi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: kris buggenhout cc: Steve Lord , "linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com" Subject: Re: shutting down f/s In-Reply-To: Message from kris buggenhout of "Thu, 04 Oct 2001 17:08:52 +0200." <3BBC7B84.FEFEDBE8@god.bel.alcatel.be> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 10:15:32 -0500 From: Steve Lord Sender: owner-linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk > Steve Lord wrote: > > > > > Might this be related to shutdowns taking a long time to actually > > > unmount fs... > > > I noticed since I upped the kernel to an 2.4.10 release ( dont know the > > > exact checkout) > > > shutdowns hang on umount for a significant larger period... as in taking > > > 2-3 minutes istd of 20-30 secs. > > > > Hmm, thats a new one to me too, my shutdowns on all xfs boxes do not appear > > to have become any longer - however, the systems are not busy before the > > unmount usually. The new VM showed up later in the 2.4.10-pre series, > > possibly this was the cause. > > > > Can you characterize how much activity there is on the system before > > shutdown - would there typically be a lot of dirty data in filesystems? > > Also, you mention write activity - is this during shutdown? > > > After a whole day of writing files / ftp logs / ftp data /archiving data > on cd / removing data, . > approx 1-3Gig/day. > > with some processes still holding a lock on that dir ( they should get > killed before umount gets called) > > I would say this fs should amount to a high percentage of dirty data. > as its a very active fs read/write/delete... So this probably relates mostly to how the vm changes have affected flushing of data out to disk. Steve